The White House has appointed a longtime senior staffer at an anti-Muslim think tank who has been named by National Security Adviser John Bolton as his new chief of staff. Fred Fleitz formerly served as Bolton’s undersecretary of state in the George W. Bush administration. He now joins the Trump administration from the Center for Security Policy, a think tank founded by former Reagan administration official Frank Gaffney. The Southern Poverty Law Center designated the organization an anti-Muslim extremist group. We speak with Eric Levitz, associate editor for New York Magazine’s “Daily Intelligencer,” whose recent piece is headlined “Bolton Installs Anti-Muslim Wingnut as NSC Chief of Staff.”
NERMEEN SHAIKH: We
turn now to the longtime senior staffer at an anti-Muslim think tank who has
been named by National Security Adviser John Bolton as his new chief of staff.
Fred Fleitz formerly served as Bolton’s undersecretary of state in the George
W. Bush administration. He now joins the Trump administration from the Center
for Security Policy, a think tank founded by former Reagan administration
official Frank Gaffney. The Southern Poverty Law Center designated the
organization an anti-Muslim extremist group, saying its main focus is, quote,
“demonizing Islam and Muslims under the guise of national security. Statements
from Frank Gaffney and other CSP staffers,
along with claims made in CSP publications,
have become increasingly conspiratorial in nature, making such claims as
Muslims are attempting to overthrow the US government from within, and that
Shariah law is trumping the constitution in American courts.”
After last year’s London Bridge terror
attack that killed eight people, Fleitz said the failure of British Muslims to
assimilate was partially to blame for Islamic radicalism. In an interview on Breitbart
News Daily, Fleitz was asked about other religious communities in
the United States who have also not assimilated.
FRED FLEITZ: It’s
certainly true there are some communities in the United States have not
assimilated. I’m not concerned about Amish or Jewish communities. But I will
tell you that there are enclaves of Muslim communities in Michigan and
Minnesota that concern me. We know that in Minnesota there’s a rising rate of
measles because the community has not assimilated into the rest of the
community and is not vaccinating their children. This is wrong. This is a big
problem. The problem with these Muslim communities is that it is making us susceptible
to this radical worldview that wants to destroy modern society, create a global
caliphate and impose Sharia law on everyone on Earth.
AMY GOODMAN: Fred
Fleitz is also the author of the 2016 book Obamabomb: A Dangerous and Growing
National Security Fraud, in which Fleitz wrote, quote, “The most
intellectually honest way for a future U.S. president to deal with the nuclear
agreement with Iran is to tear it up on his … first day in office.”
Civil rights groups condemned Fleitz’s
appointment, and the group Muslim Advocates issued a statement that, quote,
“The White House continues to be the nation’s central organizing body for white
supremacists.”
For more, we’re joined by Eric Levitz,
associate editor for New York Magazine’s
“Daily Intelligencer,” whose latest piece is
headlined “Bolton Installs Anti-Muslim Wingnut as NSCChief of Staff.”
Welcome to Democracy Now!, Eric.
ERIC LEVITZ: Yeah,
thanks for having me.
AMY GOODMAN: Why
don’t you just lay out who Fred Fleitz is, this man that John Bolton has just
appointed as his chief of staff?
ERIC LEVITZ: Sure.
Well, Fleitz and Bolton go back many decades. So, they actually did a little
bit of work together under the first Bush administration, when Fleitz assisted
him with intelligence, and then, under the second Bush administration, Fleitz
was Bolton’s chief of staff. And in that role, he was kind of known as Bolton’s
enforcer. When they got into conflicts with the career staff at the State
Department and CIA,
Fleitz would fight for Bolton’s point of view.
AMY GOODMAN: And
this is when Bolton worked for—worked under George W. Bush.
ERIC LEVITZ: Under
George W. Bush, yes.
AMY GOODMAN: And
talk about some of the controversies that Fleitz was then and has since been
involved with.
ERIC LEVITZ: Sure.
Well, in that particular period, one special point of contention was that
Bolton wanted to give this speech about Cuba pursuing biological weapons, and
he had very belligerent language that he wanted to convey this point in, that
put off analysts at the CIA,
at the State Department. They did not feel either that intelligence supported
what Bolton wanted to say or that it would be diplomatically wise for him to
say what he wished to. And the controversy over this got so intense that—and
Fleitz was so forceful in advocating Bolton’s view, that one of the career
staff, Christian Westermann, in an email that was later disclosed, said that
Fleitz was having an effect on his health and well-being and interest in
serving in government. And this is, you know, especially relevant given that
the Trump administration has these conflicts with the so-called deep state. And
bringing in Fleitz suggests that, you know, they’re going to escalate those
conflicts.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: And
also, in 2011, he insisted against the position of 16 or 17 intelligence
agencies, U.S. national security agencies, that Iran was in fact on the cusp of
getting a nuclear weapon. And this is especially relevant since he’s said
multiple times that Trump should tear up the agreement as soon as he’s in
office.
ERIC LEVITZ: Yeah,
and Fleitz has spent a lot of the past couple years—he has a column in the National
Review, and almost every single column is about, you know, “Trump,
please get around to killing this deal now.” You know, so he’s very intensely
anti-Iran. He really—he shares all the pillars of John Bolton’s worldview on
foreign policy.
AMY GOODMAN: Well,
let’s go to John Bolton speaking on Fox News in 2015.
GRETCHEN CARLSON: Ambassador,
you’ve written an op-ed today in The New York Times. And
here’s the headline—it’s an eye catcher: “To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran.” What
do you mean?
JOHN BOLTON: Well,
the negotiations, whether they lead to an agreement or not, are not going to
stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. They are so far advanced now, the
concessions they’ve made are so trivial and easily reversible, that the deal
actually legitimizes Iran’s existing nuclear program. So, my conclusion is not
a happy one, but given that if Iran gets nuclear weapons, so will Saudi Arabia,
Egypt, Turkey and maybe others, that just as Israel twice before has struck
nuclear weapons programs in the hands of hostile states, I am afraid, given the
circumstances, that’s the only real option open to us now.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: So
that’s John Bolton speaking in 2015, saying that Iran should be bombed.
ERIC LEVITZ: Yeah.
And, you know, he shares that opinion with, I believe, Mike Pompeo. The new
secretary of state has voiced similar views. And we can be confident that
Fleitz is no less reluctant to use military force against Iran or any other
American adversary.
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