Here's another exposé about a faux spiritual teacher — Byron Katie. "The Work" of Katie makes us vulnerable to being led into a dark spiral and in the opposite direction away from deep healing and spiritual groundedness.
Hurt people hurt people. And for those of us who work with our trauma in deep and transformative ways, being a victim can be transformed into a passion for compassion, kindness, and love. The question is whether or not we have the resilience, support, and intention to heal how we've been victimized and cultivate the skills of the alchemist.
I see the above quote by Ms. Katie where she names "victims as violent people" as a projection. Bryon Katie has obviously never moved beyond the violence she perpetrates on others that has arisen out of her own likely victimization as a child. She obviously is riddled with deep self-contempt and self-loathing. That she is identified as someone with wisdom and therefore in a position of power makes her an especially dangerous woman.
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I'm also familiar with this quote given below by Jeff Brown. Jeff writes that this is "an example of Byron Katie's use of the turnaround technique. On page 35, of Losing the Moon, Byron Katie starts talking about Nazi's taking babies from Jewish mothers and throwing the babies into a firepit near the end of WWII. How do these excerpts land for you? They horrify me, and reflect the kind of dissociation that is mistakenly represented as awakening all too often in the spiritual community."
Quote from Byron Katie:
If Someone (God, ‘what is’), pulls my baby from me - if that's what it takes, I'm there. Take the baby. Tear my baby from me. Throw it in the fire....My discomfort is my war with God. [...]
You see, there are NO choices. What is, is. [...]
But when we get to the baby thing, we're getting down to our sacred little concepts now....You take my baby from me, you're messing with the illusion of I'm the mommy, this is the baby, there's the daddy...
But tearing the baby away- that's the higher. That's the higher, because it snatches your story from you and makes it apparent in your face - nothing's real short of reality....
That's it. That's what is. That's love. That's absolutely Un-describable love. That you, God, would even give me that.
Can you know that Hitler didn't bring more people to realization than Jesus? On your knees - God. God! God! But our stories of reality keep us from the awareness of God is Everything. And God is Good. [...]
There has never been evil and there never will be. Evil is simply a story about what's not...
But I have trashed the baby when I have trashed the Nazi...
I am the baby going into the pit. I am the one throwing the baby in the pit...
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I feel like I again need to state that Bryon Katie is incredibly dangerous. I first became familiar with her many years ago when a friend spoke with me about "The Work." She described to me how she was training with Byron Katie to be a "personal coach," and went on to offer me a phone session with her demonstrating "the work." My friend was in Michigan and I was in Oregon, and she knew about my extremely narcissistic mother. So she tried to help me do the "turn around" with my mother. I was left confused and felt that this experience was not helpful and did nothing for me.
I still had already ordered a couple of Katie's books and I began reading one of them after they arrived. That is when I came across a passage where Katie was doing a turnaround with an incest survivor. This woman was up on a stage with Byron Katie in front of a sizable audience and she was going into the trauma of sexual abuse by her father — something which had caused her so much harm and which she hadn't yet addressed. Byron Katie's response to this woman was so horrifying to me, just so incredibly traumatizing and heartless and damaging, that I turned around and dumped both books I'd ordered into the garbage can.
Ever since then I've felt like it cannot be overstated how dangerous, heartless, and I believe narcissistic Byron Katie is. Too many supposedly "evolved" teachers cause untold harm to vulnerable others. It makes my heart hurt.
This comment from a woman following the thread of this original post by Jeff Brown was also spot on. She wrote, "Ms. Katie's unconscious goal was to never feel helpless, out of control or in pain again. So she invented a brilliant dissociative technique to break the connection between her cold mind and her feeling body and heart, and hide forever in the numb peace that this creates. It was a clever move, and seduces/attracts others who are desperate and overwhelmed by inner pain, and seeking to dissociate from themselves as well. She's a bit of a genius of spiritual bypassing... And crazy as a loon."
We all need to beware of being pulled into faux spiritual teachings and dangerous supposedly spiritually evolved teachers who, in actuality, are crazy as a loon. Bryon Katie is certainly among them.
Bless us all on our journeys. May we be
blessed with discernment and connections with those
who truly support and nourish us.
❤
Molly
8 comments:
Hi Molly, I feel you have not understood what Byron Katie attempts to communicate.
One of the reasons for this inability is that some folks have never realised that: language was invented. Think about that.
I think she understands perfectly. I also think Byron Katie is either crazy as a loon, or evil. To tell a child he should be happy when someone he loves dies. To tell a sexual abuse survivor she is the abuser. To tell people their abusers are their buddhas. This disempowers people and blames the victims and also would get in the way of advocacy for anyone. Why would I advocate for anyone when I believe everyone is fine. The man raping the woman is fine and the woman is fine….. this is what she would have us believe, and to think otherwise is to not understand reality. She is a sickness in the collective mind.
Thank you, D. Spot on. Katie specializes in retraumatizing traumatized people. Insidious and so incredibly disturbing.
Thanks for this article and the replies. It helps me from recovering from the delusional (derealization / depersonalization / dissociation promoting) teachers and teachings.
I start to realize how all this "you are the abuser too (by the false pre-assumption you are either 'the whole' and/or you are 'nothing')" is one of the most destructive ideas floating around.
It sets you up for a completely self defeating inferiority complex (helpless prey for the predator and abuser) or for a fully narcissistic defense mechanism (bordering psychopathy).
All these processes, mechanisms and teachings that are called spiritual, seem to have a couple of things in common.
Denial of the observed reality (inferior to a make-believe other reality), denial of plurality (there's only one or not even that), denial of the organism / material world (it's all an illusion) and the denial of content within reality (language, self, psyche, the body, the list is endless.) to name a few.
All kinds of ideas (made up by making use of the denied stuff mentioned above) that were searched out and started looking valid after 'a collision' with life and the search for a way to escape the living reality of being who and what you are.
So thanks again for pointing this out. It took me a step further to healing trauma instead of retraumatizing (and self gaslighting).
Have a nice journey. 🙂
I notice parallels with gaslighting-based tactics where they may state certain ideas differently from each other, but ultimately they all end up gaslighting reality while blaming the victim.
A Course In Miracles is just one example. Their tactic is to deny evil exists because "only what comes from God is real, and since God is love, evil does not exist.". Eckhart Tolle is another one. He states that it's never the situation that causes suffering but rather it's your thoughts about it that do. There are more too, such as the RA teachings, etc. Katie is no different, and they all praise each other's work.
Katie, like Tolle, claims she (mysteriously) had a "spiritual" awakening one night that transformed her. How odd. She claims she never read about these ideas beforehand even though someone close to her revealed she had many New Though-based books in her possession. Ultimately all of these poisonous ideas are derived from Idealism, so there's rrally nothing original about them outside of the extra twists each author has added. BTW, the woman who wrote ACIM went insane during her last days, regretting she wrote "that book!".
I just now realized that I gaslit the F out of myself 6 yrs ago via "The Work". When I should have been escaping the narcissist.
Thank you for writing this article. More people need to see articles like this. It’s easy to be seduced by Byron Katy’s message. When you feel desperate for relief from pain, and you have lived a life full of gaslighting and abuse, you no longer trust yourself and instead blame yourself. You also are so used to handing your power over to dangerous people. I had a licensed therapist do this work with me which I believe set me back further. The Workis the ultimate form of self gaslighting. I’m grateful to you and others who have shed light on the dangers of her work.
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